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What’s happening between ex-minister Elias Bou Saab and journalist Jean Aziz ?

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  • spacecreature

    Well-Known Member
    I am wondering what will happen to the party after GMA?
    Will it be all sides fighting with one another? If it is happening now what makes people so sure it won't happen later on? Does Bassil have the support of all members in the party? OTV is acting ka2ano they are some renegade rebel militia who doesn't listen to FPM. They are the parties channel for god sake.
    Actually OTV is acting as if nothing happened. None of their programs even make the slightest reference to it, not their morning show with Abdo (who usually makes fun of everything), not their news, not their political talk shows...Its weird.
     

    JustLeb

    Legendary Member
    Aziz was still LF during qornet chehwen meetings
    Part of qornet chehwan... Then Strida ended his official title as well as Toufic El Hindi but they were kept in the qornet as their personal capacity.
    If my memory serves me well the reason was that Aziz baked the positions of GMA and supported Hikmat Dib (yes he still exists for those who are wondering) in the by elections to replace late MP Helou
     

    LVV

    Well-Known Member
    Aziz was sacked for the following reasons
    He doesn’t bring anything special
    He is loyal but he made a big mistake
    Saab control swat al mada
    He is wealthy very popular in general in spite of his last tv mistake
    He is popular in Metn and could end Michel Murr and he can get some of SSNP voters
     

    Aoune32!

    Well-Known Member
    Aziz was sacked for the following reasons
    He doesn’t bring anything special
    He is loyal but he made a big mistake
    Saab control swat al mada
    He is wealthy very popular in general in spite of his last tv mistake
    He is popular in Metn and could end Michel Murr and he can get some of SSNP voters
    So now the party just goes to the wealthy?? Same as why they want Sawaya in Jezzine? Have you seen the guy talk?? Mabya3ref chi mn chi.. mastoul la allah.
     

    LVV

    Well-Known Member
    So now the party just goes to the wealthy?? Same as why they want Sawaya in Jezzine? Have you seen the guy talk?? Mabya3ref chi mn chi.. mastoul la allah.
    Party should not go to wealthy Bro
    Saab was a very good Minister of education
    He is also very popular
    So to say he is only wealthy is unfair
     

    Aoune32!

    Well-Known Member
    Party should not go to wealthy Bro
    Saab was a very good Minister of education
    He is also very popular
    So to say he is only wealthy is unfair
    The party needs to shape up seriously. They are targetting the wealthy and placing them on the list. We need persons who can communicate to the people like Ziad Aswad. We don't businessmen like people that just care about money.
    Saab back then was education ministry. His only achievement was that when they hired professors he made sure 48% of the professors were christians. He tried as much as he can to get parity. Is there any other achievement??
     

    JB81

    Legendary Member
    Aziz miscalculated 3a rasi...but he endangered the image of the president, he created a problem with HA about the movie (which you criticized OTV for btw)
    He was fired as adviser of the president but the daughter of the president kept him in position at OTV despite that he said that the adviser of president is a thief which very much tarnishes the credibility of the president.
    Usually when a journalist makes such baseless accusations on a channel putting the credibility of the channel at risk, he will be fired. Yet OTV kept him. Doesn't this make you wonder why?
    To my knowledge he was not asked to issue an apology (correct me if I am wrong).
    Do you remember when the NBN anchor was caught off air jubilating on the assassination of MP Walid 3ido ?
    She was "fired", then few months later she returned with a public apology...
    Aziz didn't seem to have publicly apologized to the president (also correct me if I am wrong)
    Probably the management of the OTV agree on those accusations .... probably Aziz is simply reflecting the mindset of the OTV management??
    If we are to take @walidos opinion, he thinks that the situation with Aziz shouldn't gone that far of advisory resignation. Here, you are asking for a total distancing from FPM.
    Not sure what went behind closed doors, maybe by keeping Aziz on OTV is a half way measure for Aziz; in part he is loved and respected by many, and in part to learn to be more responsible especially when dealing with FPM or associates on OTV and the media.

    If Aziz accepted his mistake, as a result he resigned from being an advisor to the President, but also accepted to keep his position on OTV; if he is happy with these measures, who are we to say otherwise?
     

    JustLeb

    Legendary Member
    If we are to take @walidos opinion, he thinks that the situation with Aziz shouldn't gone that far of advisory resignation. Here, you are asking for a total distancing from FPM.
    Not sure what went behind closed doors, maybe by keeping Aziz on OTV is a half way measure for Aziz; in part he is loved and respected by many, and in part to learn to be more responsible especially when dealing with FPM or associates on OTV and the media.

    If Aziz accepted his mistake, as a result he resigned from being an advisor to the President, but also accepted to keep his position on OTV; if he is happy with these measures, who are we to say otherwise?
    BouSaab on the offensive and he is right.
    Either Aziz apologises publicly as he attacked publicly or he should press charges.
    Notice that in the following statement he is accusing OTV.
    The attack came from OTV not from Aziz directly


    اعتبر الوزير السابق الياس بو صعب أن "ما قيل في مقدمة الـ
    OTV
    ضدي افتراء وليس هناك أي مشكل مع التيار أو الرئيس ميشال عون ولا صراع أجنحة انما هناك موظف في مؤسسة اعلامية كتب مقدمة يتحمل هو مسؤوليتها".


    واضاف بو صعب، في حديث الى "ام.تي.في."، "حتى اليوم الـ
    OTV
    لم تتراجع عن المقدمة وبالنسبة لي اما يتم الاعتذار واما سأضطر الى اتخاذ الاجراءات لاظهار الافتراء".



    وتابع: "اذا اراد كاتب المقدمة الحفاظ على مصدقيته فليظهر الادلة وانا جاهز فاذا تمكن من اثبات افتراءاته سأعتزل السياسة واذا لم يفعل فيجب محاسبته".
     

    JB81

    Legendary Member
    BouSaab on the offensive and he is right.
    Either Aziz apologises publicly as he attacked publicly or he should press charges.
    Notice that in the following statement he is accusing OTV.
    The attack came from OTV not from Aziz directly


    اعتبر الوزير السابق الياس بو صعب أن "ما قيل في مقدمة الـ
    OTV
    ضدي افتراء وليس هناك أي مشكل مع التيار أو الرئيس ميشال عون ولا صراع أجنحة انما هناك موظف في مؤسسة اعلامية كتب مقدمة يتحمل هو مسؤوليتها".


    واضاف بو صعب، في حديث الى "ام.تي.في."، "حتى اليوم الـ
    OTV
    لم تتراجع عن المقدمة وبالنسبة لي اما يتم الاعتذار واما سأضطر الى اتخاذ الاجراءات لاظهار الافتراء".



    وتابع: "اذا اراد كاتب المقدمة الحفاظ على مصدقيته فليظهر الادلة وانا جاهز فاذا تمكن من اثبات افتراءاته سأعتزل السياسة واذا لم يفعل فيجب محاسبته".
    You missed the real point that should've concerned you the most لا صراع أجنحة:lol:.

    As for other points, Bou Saab got a trust from the people and is loved by FPM and others. His political career is based on productivity and clean hands. For a close media to attack him the way it did, it really caused some harm and trust issues with Bou Saab. OTV must come clean with Bou Saab, and this is for the greater good for everyone. Admitting a mistake is virtue, how is it a mistake against Bou Saab, an advisor of President Aoun.
     

    JustLeb

    Legendary Member
    You missed the real point that should've concerned you the most لا صراع أجنحة:lol:.

    As for other points, Bou Saab got a trust from the people and is loved by FPM and others. His political career is based on productivity and clean hands. For a close media to attack him the way it did, it really caused some harm and trust issues with Bou Saab. OTV must come clean with Bou Saab, and this is for the greater good for everyone. Admitting a mistake is virtue, how is it a mistake against Bou Saab, an advisor of President Aoun.
    Man I thought about that but then I said no way jb81 will fall for it!!
    Do you really expect him to say there is a conflict within the president inner circle??
    How would the president look to the public after his adviser suggest that he is unable to control members of his family ???!!!!!
    There's a problem because if the attack on bousaab that hurts the president image (his adviser is a thief) was the decision of a single employee, the OTV (that should be concerned about the président image) would have forced this employee to publicly apologize or fired him. But on the opposite it seems that they don't care which mean the managers of the channel, Mireille and her husband, agree with Aziz and are protecting him.
    This is the most reasonable explanation...
     

    LVV

    Well-Known Member
    BouSaab on the offensive and he is right.
    Either Aziz apologises publicly as he attacked publicly or he should press charges.
    Notice that in the following statement he is accusing OTV.
    The attack came from OTV not from Aziz directly


    اعتبر الوزير السابق الياس بو صعب أن "ما قيل في مقدمة الـ
    OTV
    ضدي افتراء وليس هناك أي مشكل مع التيار أو الرئيس ميشال عون ولا صراع أجنحة انما هناك موظف في مؤسسة اعلامية كتب مقدمة يتحمل هو مسؤوليتها".


    واضاف بو صعب، في حديث الى "ام.تي.في."، "حتى اليوم الـ
    OTV
    لم تتراجع عن المقدمة وبالنسبة لي اما يتم الاعتذار واما سأضطر الى اتخاذ الاجراءات لاظهار الافتراء".



    وتابع: "اذا اراد كاتب المقدمة الحفاظ على مصدقيته فليظهر الادلة وانا جاهز فاذا تمكن من اثبات افتراءاته سأعتزل السياسة واذا لم يفعل فيجب محاسبته".
    It is Bassil who pushed Aziz out OTV should apologize on this Saab And Bassil are right
    Only Bassil should not humiliate Aziz before all people
     

    JustLeb

    Legendary Member
    خلافات العونيين الى العلن: شجار بين الحايك وبوصعب
    منذ 9 ساعات

    hayek-bou-saab.jpg

    نشر عضو المجلس السياسي في التيار الوطني الحر ناجي حايك على صفحته للتواصل الاجتماعي ما حصل في إجتماع المجلس السياسي الأخير متهماً الوزير الياس بو صعب بممارسة العنجهية طالباً منه عدم الترشح باسم حزب التيار الوطني الحر، فهل يرضخ الأخير؟
    هنا النص:
    كما وعدت، مبارح اثرت الموضوع في المجلس السياسي واكمل الوزير السابق الياس ابو صعب بعنجهيتو واعتبار انه ارفع من ان يجي عن اسئلتي فصار هرج ومرج وقلت له انني مؤتمن على دماء رفاقي الذين استشهدوا في مواجهة الاحتلال السوري !!! قال من انت لتحاسبني فاجبت انني كنت اقاتل السوريين عندما كان معهم في نفس الخندق. يمكنه ان يكون حليفاً انتخابياً لا مرشح باسم حزب التيار الوطني الحر
     

    Lebnaouneh

    Well-Known Member
    خلافات العونيين الى العلن: شجار بين الحايك وبوصعب
    منذ 9 ساعات

    hayek-bou-saab.jpg

    نشر عضو المجلس السياسي في التيار الوطني الحر ناجي حايك على صفحته للتواصل الاجتماعي ما حصل في إجتماع المجلس السياسي الأخير متهماً الوزير الياس بو صعب بممارسة العنجهية طالباً منه عدم الترشح باسم حزب التيار الوطني الحر، فهل يرضخ الأخير؟
    هنا النص:
    كما وعدت، مبارح اثرت الموضوع في المجلس السياسي واكمل الوزير السابق الياس ابو صعب بعنجهيتو واعتبار انه ارفع من ان يجي عن اسئلتي فصار هرج ومرج وقلت له انني مؤتمن على دماء رفاقي الذين استشهدوا في مواجهة الاحتلال السوري !!! قال من انت لتحاسبني فاجبت انني كنت اقاتل السوريين عندما كان معهم في نفس الخندق. يمكنه ان يكون حليفاً انتخابياً لا مرشح باسم حزب التيار الوطني الحر
    I agree with Naji
     

    Dark Angel

    Legendary Member
    خلافات العونيين الى العلن: شجار بين الحايك وبوصعب
    منذ 9 ساعات

    hayek-bou-saab.jpg

    نشر عضو المجلس السياسي في التيار الوطني الحر ناجي حايك على صفحته للتواصل الاجتماعي ما حصل في إجتماع المجلس السياسي الأخير متهماً الوزير الياس بو صعب بممارسة العنجهية طالباً منه عدم الترشح باسم حزب التيار الوطني الحر، فهل يرضخ الأخير؟
    هنا النص:
    كما وعدت، مبارح اثرت الموضوع في المجلس السياسي واكمل الوزير السابق الياس ابو صعب بعنجهيتو واعتبار انه ارفع من ان يجي عن اسئلتي فصار هرج ومرج وقلت له انني مؤتمن على دماء رفاقي الذين استشهدوا في مواجهة الاحتلال السوري !!! قال من انت لتحاسبني فاجبت انني كنت اقاتل السوريين عندما كان معهم في نفس الخندق. يمكنه ان يكون حليفاً انتخابياً لا مرشح باسم حزب التيار الوطني الحر
    people should know when to remain silent. naji is upset because there is no place for him on the list in jbeil despite having won the flawed preliminary nomination elections inside the party. now comes a time where he has to put his priorities straight, and it is here where it becomes obvious whether or not he demands to cut the child and split it in half.

    the best interest of FPM requires him to back down, and in this critical period, the best interest of Lebanon coincides with the best interest of the party.
     

    SeaAb

    Well-Known Member
    Staff member
    Super Penguin
    Bassil has to put his foot down ba2a and assume control of the party. He has to put an end to these recurring childish rants.
     

    JustLeb

    Legendary Member
    Bassil has to put his foot down ba2a and assume control of the party. He has to put an end to these recurring childish rants.
    بوصعب زلمة باسيل و الجنرال، ناجي حايك زلمة مين ؟؟

    ممكن حايك تكون طلعت ورقتو و باسيل بدو يزحطو، فبحيلو عل المجلس التأديبي (يعني باسيل) و بقله برا

    ممكن كمان يكون حايك شاعر بالشيء و عم يعمل عنتر للناس تسمع في
     

    lebanese1

    Legendary Member
    اخذ سيارة قصر بعبدا ولم يعدها؟!
    السبت 24 شباط 2018 13:31خاص النشرة - فجّة وصريحة

    علمت "النشرة" ان "احد الموظفين الذين تم فصلهم عن العمل في قصر بعبدا لا يزال حتى اليوم يصادر السيارة المقدمة له من القصر مع السائق الخاص بها ولم يعدها الى المسؤولين في القصر رغم ابلاغه بضرورة القيام بذلك".
    كما اكدت مصادر النشرة انه "يُدرس بشكل جدي فصل الشخص المذكور من القناة التلفزيونية التي يعمل بها".
     
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