What do you think of giving Palestinians the nationality vs 100B USD?

Are you with this solution or not?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 3.6%
  • No

    Votes: 27 96.4%

  • Total voters
    28
Jo

Jo

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It seems, it is being officially suggested by the EU.


 
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  • Lebmonage

    Lebmonage

    Legendary Member
    The Palestinians should be given the freedom to move to Europe through the Mediterranean, unhindered. Let Kushner give his $100bn to the Europeans to naturalize the Palestinians in European countries.
     
    IsaBells

    IsaBells

    All the jingle ladies, put your hands up!
    Orange Room Supporter
    Let them give the $100 billion to Jordan w ma3a l Palestinians. They're not our burden to keep bearing
     
    ّTelefon Kasse

    ّTelefon Kasse

    Member
    هذا القرار سيزيد من الأعباء المالية على لبنان في المستقبل حتى لو قام الأتحاد الأوروبي بتصفيركلّ ديون لبنان

    أولا - سيكون على لبنان أن يؤمّن وظائف لهؤلاء وهو لايستطيع تأمين وظائف وخدمات لشعبه حاليا فكيف بمزيدّ من الاجئين؟
    وهذا ما سيخلق مشكلة أكبر قد تؤدي لاحقا الى صراع قد يتحولّ الى حرب جديدة وفوضى

    ثانيا - أذا قبل لبنان ذلك سيعّمد الأتحاد الأوروربي ألى ترحيل الكثير من اللاجئين الذين هم أساس في أوروبا وزيادتهم على اللاجئين في لبنان
    بغية التخلصّ منهم
     
    ّTelefon Kasse

    ّTelefon Kasse

    Member
    Let them give the $100 billion to Jordan w ma3a l Palestinians. They're not our burden to keep bearing
    you are allowed to refuse such proposal not to give suggestions to the EU.
    what will be your response if Jordan gave you the same answer you are giving now ?
    only refuse .. don't give suggestions
     
    Lebmonage

    Lebmonage

    Legendary Member
    If we give the Palestinians citizenship, it is officially selling our country to the Gulf Arab countries. It will be RIP Lebanon. It will knock the sectarian balance. You're injecting about half a million Palestinian Sunni voters into the Lebanese sectarian equation. Technically, Sunnis will become a majority in Lebanon and Lebanon will lose its identity as one of the few Arab countries with a Sunni minority (not majority). We have automatically sold our country and we may even end up in a civil war, whereby these Palestinians with a sense of entitlement as citizens, and along with their radicalism would be armed to confront other Lebanese, who are the original inhabitants of Lebanon. Palestinians belong to Palestine or, anywhere else but Lebanon.

    As a response to this proposal, I, as a Lebanese, am calling on the March 8 parties,
    and the President and Speaker, who have a majority in parliament to speed up the process of fully implementing Taef and abolishing the sectarian system. Let us move to a presidential system. We'd end up with the Shia and Christians taking the presidency and vice presidency slots (and rotating it between this two communities). That is, always a Shia President with a Christian vice, and a Christian President with a Shia vice. Let a Druze be head of the senate or senate president and a Sunni be speaker of Parliament. The PM post would be abolished and a vice presidential post would be created. That is the way out to ensure Lebanon's identity as a country of the minorities in the region.
     
    IsaBells

    IsaBells

    All the jingle ladies, put your hands up!
    Orange Room Supporter
    you are allowed to refuse such proposal not to give suggestions to the EU.
    what will be your response if Jordan gave you the same answer you are giving now ?
    only refuse .. don't give suggestions
    Eh because Europe deghre sem3o menne l kelme and sent the Palestinians over! We're in this conundrum because Jordan kicked our Palestinians out of their land w shaba2uwun 3aleyna.
     
    IsaBells

    IsaBells

    All the jingle ladies, put your hands up!
    Orange Room Supporter
    If we give the Palestinians citizenship, it is officially selling our country to the Gulf Arab countries. It will be RIP Lebanon. It will knock the sectarian balance. You're injecting about half a million Palestinian Sunni voters into the Lebanese sectarian equation. Technically, Sunnis will become a majority in Lebanon and Lebanon will lose its identity as one of the few Arab countries with a Sunni minority (not majority). We have automatically sold our country and we may even end up in a civil war, whereby these Palestinians with a sense of entitlement as citizens, and along with their radicalism would be armed to confront other Lebanese, who are the original inhabitants of Lebanon. Palestinians belong to Palestine or, anywhere else but Lebanon.

    As a response to this proposal, I, as a Lebanese, am calling on the March 8 parties,
    and the President and Speaker, who have a majority in parliament to speed up the process of fully implementing Taef and abolishing the sectarian system. Let us move to a presidential system. We'd end up with the Shia and Christians taking the presidency and vice presidency slots (and rotating it between this two communities). That is, always a Shia President with a Christian vice, and a Christian President with a Shia vice. Let a Druze be head of the senate or senate president and a Sunni be speaker of Parliament. The PM post would be abolished and a vice presidential post would be created. That is the way out to ensure Lebanon's identity as a country of the minorities in the region.
    3emlo civil war without a sense of entitlement w kell fatra bi ebbo rasun it's nothing but terrorism! F*ck them along with the EU, Jordan and their 100 billion.
     
    Lebmonage

    Lebmonage

    Legendary Member
    هذا القرار سيزيد من الأعباء المالية على لبنان في المستقبل حتى لو قام الأتحاد الأوروبي بتصفيركلّ ديون لبنان
    أولا - سيكون على لبنان أن يؤمّن وظائف لهؤلاء وهو لايستطيع تأمين وظائف وخدمات لشعبه حاليا فكيف بمزيدّ من الاجئين؟
    وهذا ما سيخلق مشكلة أكبر قد تؤدي لاحقا الى صراع قد يتحولّ الى حرب جديدة وفوضى
    ثانيا - أذا قبل لبنان ذلك سيعّمد الأتحاد الأوروربي ألى ترحيل الكثير من اللاجئين الذين هم أساس في أوروبا وزيادتهم على اللاجئين في لبنان
    بغية التخلصّ منهم
    Our economy is already so weak that every Lebanese youth is deprived of living in his country with his family.

    Once we graduate from university, our degree is our divorce certificate. We get divorced from our parents and families. We think of going abroad to get jobs. Many times, those jobs are simply to survive and keep our families in Lebanon happy and sufficient.

    If you add Palestinians, and maybe later (for another 100 billion), the Syrians too, we have foolishly given up our country to foreigners, while being deceived to imagine we are gaining financial freedom. And that is not going to happen. Even if those in govt accept (and they will not dare to), the Lebanese people would literally end up committing a genocide. When things dont work eventually, we might end up hunting Palestinians and Syrians like the Hutus and Tutsis hunted themselves in the Rwandan genocide.

    Whoever wants this plan of naturalization in Lebanon doesn't want what is good for Lebanon. We are not going to bear the brunt for the creation of an apartheid Jewish state. Even if you conduct a referendum on naturalization, the unanimous answer would be no. Even Lebanese Sunnis will reject such a mischievous idea. Palestinians belong to Palestine, or anywhere else, but Lebanon.
     
    The_FPMer

    The_FPMer

    Active Member
    Michael Aoun will not sign and he will not resign!
    Nsit inno last year 500-600 Syrians and Jordanians w medre shou got naturalized for millions of dollars? And what was promised from that? That they will invest their capital in the Lebanese economy.

    Kif elak 3en te7ke? Akh ya allah :lol:
     
    ّTelefon Kasse

    ّTelefon Kasse

    Member
    Eh because Europe deghre sem3o menne l kelme and sent the Palestinians over! We're in this conundrum because Jordan kicked our Palestinians out of their land w shaba2uwun 3aleyna.
    they were not in Jordan !! israel kicked them to Lebanon
    I'm not saying this for the EU to hear you but when you say this, you are creating a problem with Jordan
    let the EU suggest this for Jordan not us !! besides, Palestinians are better off in bigger geographical locations
    like Europe and Iraq and Saudi Arabia and Egypt or Libya but that's not for us to decide .. all we can do is state
    our legitimate concerns and our small geographical location.
    This also included the women who are demanding to give their children the Lebanese citizenship.
    The best course of action is to throw in jail the corrupted politicians if they refuse to give back what they stole.
     
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    Lebmonage

    Lebmonage

    Legendary Member
    you are allowed to refuse such proposal not to give suggestions to the EU.
    what will be your response if Jordan gave you the same answer you are giving now ?
    only refuse .. don't give suggestions
    Jordan is already with a population that is 50% Palestinian. That is not much of a problem because Jordan is not as diverse as Lebanon religiously. Jordanians and Palestinians share more in common, than they do with Lebanese.
     
    Lebmonage

    Lebmonage

    Legendary Member
    Nsit inno last year 500-600 Syrians and Jordanians w medre shou got naturalized for millions of dollars? And what was promised from that? That they will invest their capital in the Lebanese economy.

    Kif elak 3en te7ke? Akh ya allah :lol:
    Giving the citizenship once in every blue moon to a few hundred people, many of whom are billionaires themselves, is very different to when you give citizenship en masse to hundreds of thousands of refugee people, who pose many challenges in terms of political, religious and economic integration. And of all countries, tiny Lebanon is least capable of facing such challenges. Other Arab countries or even western countries would be better suited to handle such mass integration of people. They can even divide the numbers among themselves.
     
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    The_FPMer

    The_FPMer

    Active Member
    Giving the citizenship once in every blue moon to a few hundred people, many of whom are billionaires themselves, is very difficult to when you give citizenship end masse to hundreds of thousands of refugee people, who pose many challenges in terms of political, religious and economic integration.
    The intent to profit from naturalization is there.
     
    Joe tayyar

    Joe tayyar

    Legendary Member
    Orange Room Supporter
    Nsit inno last year 500-600 Syrians and Jordanians w medre shou got naturalized for millions of dollars? And what was promised from that? That they will invest their capital in the Lebanese economy.

    Kif elak 3en te7ke? Akh ya allah :lol:
    They were 120 people, and are you comparing 120 to half a million?! Its started with the palestinians, soon they will tell you take the Syrians with them asheh laffeh.
    Akh ya allah!
     
    ّTelefon Kasse

    ّTelefon Kasse

    Member
    Jordan is already with a population that is 50% Palestinian. That is not much of a problem because Jordan is not as diverse as Lebanon religiously. Jordanians and Palestinians share more in common, than they do with Lebanese.
    1-That's not for you to decide
    2-Jordan is diverse and if you don't know about Jordan don't talk
    3- There are Christians and Arab jews in Jordan too, they are not a majority but Jordanian society is diverse
    and Finally, again, don't give suggestions to the EU, just state the valid and logical reasons why you
    can't handle such numbers. I think it is obvious even to the blind, a small glass cannot contain a jar of water
     
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