What is Bothering Jumblatt Today??

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Your problem is that you only get your info from the terrorist tv.
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هذه القناة التي استمرّت في البث خلال 33 يوم من العدوان الإسرائيليّ على لبنان هي قناة رادعة للإرهاب وليست إرهابية

The army reports and all security forces reports show that there was a camera inside a container.
مستوعب للنفايات وليس كونتاينور
السارق عندما يريد أن يسرق، يقوم بقطع الأسلاك المرتبطة بالكاميرا، أو أنك غير مقيم بلبنان وبعيد عن فنون السرقة
 
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  • hmorsel

    hmorsel

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    There are 3 problems with your comment.

    1 - You are not recognizing that the situation today is a shared responsibility between all parties and the parties in the loyalist group alrewady took the country down into the toilet before. yau cannot make that argument anylonger , since one has to aknowledge that "BEFORE" didnt exist outside the realm of total syrian control. we should give the loyalists, as you call them, a chance to do what they said they will do, and if they fail, then we will elect different ones the next time around.

    2 - We are not turning a blind eye to the situation (and we do not believe it is a hizb issue alone but everybody shares the blame) but what you - the loyalist - are doing did not solve a single thing until today so why should we go along your plan? how can the loyalist (I like this label) be able to solve anything when they are being obstructed by the opposition in every Andover they set on in both the economic and social sectors.

    3 - We do believe that it is only a matter of time and the hypocricy that is prevailing today will be brought down in a very ugly way. I dont share your pessimism as the bigger players are not going to allow any of that to happen, and I strongly believe that we emerged much smarter from the civil war.

    4 - We believe that time is playing into our hand and we will wait few more months and things will definitely change. Time is indeed playing in your hands very negatively as the Xritians are loosing their importance and justification to exist in Lebanon

    As a side note: Do you really believe the international tribunal will get to anything? Don't you see that the issue of the tribunal is moving away from the front to the backstage? The tribunal is only one step for the Lebanese to realize their independence. It should be the most important first step in orer to lay to rest all assumptions, accusations and offer possible truths. Whether Harriri was like or not is not the ? no one should be bold enough to come into our country and kill our people to intimidate us for any reason.


    n.b The devil in the form of hizb? Really? So you are willing to sit with the devil and talk about issues to get to a solution? didnt you just describe the FPM? The loyalist are hoping to wrest the HA leadership from the claws of the devil and bring them and their loyalty back to their land
     
    Observer

    Observer

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    There are 3 problems with your comment.

    1 - yau cannot make that argument anylonger , since one has to aknowledge that "BEFORE" didnt exist outside the realm of total syrian control. we should give the loyalists, as you call them, a chance to do what they said they will do, and if they fail, then we will elect different ones the next time around.
    So Lebanon is a guinea pig. Let the loyalists experiment and then if the country collapse and a civil war breaks out then ooooops sorrrrry let us repeat the experiments under different conditions. Your comments are pathetic. Why do we not let the opposition for example experiment? And you think the loyalists will accept they withdraw and let people elect somebody else? Don't you see that the leaders are the same for 25 years now and the same warlords who brought misery to Lebanon are still running the show? This is pathetic and I do not know why am I answering it.

    2 - how can the loyalist (I like this label) be able to solve anything when they are being obstructed by the opposition in every Andover they set on in both the economic and social sectors.
    First - every single blunder the loyalist do get blamed on the opposition. This is the politics of escaping responsibility. هذا العهر السياسي. It is the ruling party responsibility to find a solution. Let them find a solution for the country's problem. if they can not then they are not fit.

    Second- Let them sit with the opposition instead of all this bashing that lead them nowhere.

    3 - I dont share your pessimism as the bigger players are not going to allow any of that to happen, and I strongly believe that we emerged much smarter from the civil war.
    I never said anything about civil war. I meant that the alliances built on hypocricy will crash in a very ugly way.
    4 - We believe that time is playing into our hand and we will wait few more months and things will definitely change. Time is indeed playing in your hands very negatively as the Xritians are loosing their importance and justification to exist in Lebanon
    Time is playing into the hands of the opposition and the loyalists are realizing that, not their base though. Once their base starts realizing that things will change before it is too late.

    he tribunal is only one step for the Lebanese to realize their independence. It should be the most important first step in orer to lay to rest all assumptions, accusations and offer possible truths. Whether Harriri was like or not is not the ? no one should be bold enough to come into our country and kill our people to intimidate us for any reason.
    hey, it seems those who killed Hariri did not come from outside. They are among the very same group that Hariri supported. Surprised? Wait few months.


    didnt you just describe the FPM? The loyalist are hoping to wrest the HA leadership from the claws of the devil and bring them and their loyalty back to their land
    huh? the loyalists are hoping to get FPM to their side as a puppet like the LF and do whatever they want after that. This is all, otherwise they could have done that when GMA came back from france.
     
    GMA forever

    GMA forever

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    I found it a good article on Walid Jumblat

    http://www.clao.us/Archive/News_About_Lebanon/News_About_Lebanon_2007/News_About_Lebanon_2007_03/070305 - On Walid Jumblatt.htm



    A few thoughts inspired by Walid Jumblat's recent visit to the United States.


    Jumblat has bluntly asked for American political and military assistance in ridding Lebanon of what he calls "indirect Syrian occupation" (i.e. Hezbollah, the biggest and most popular party in Lebanon). He also urged the American government to move on with "regime change" in Syria.


    Even by the extremely low standards of vulgar Lebanese politics, Jumblat's speeches and declarations have an incredibly obscene and shameless quality. From casually asking a foreign power to strike his own country and assist in instigating a civil war, to his surreal "kalila and doumna"-inspired tirade on February 14th, to his earlier "invasion of the majouss" sound bites, Jumblat has consistently sustained a highly inflammatory and irresponsible discourse over the last two years. Whenever there is a need in the March 14th camp to endorse and propagate the most extremist and uncompromising message, Jumblat is ready to deliver.


    Another Jumblat trademark is the notorious instability of his positions. From vehemently defending the resistance's weapons to labeling Hezbollah as a Farsi militia, from standing behind the Bashar Assad regime to drawing descriptions of him from the animal kingdom, from publicly insulting Paul Wolfowitz to praising the American occupation of Iraq as a model that must be propagated throughout the region, Jumblat has created an unintentional parody of the inveterate spineless politician. It is difficult to find a single issue over which he has not adopted two completely antagonistic views. It is commonplace for him to reverse his opinion more than once within a few days, or within a single day, or sometimes even in the course of the same press conference.


    How can Jumblat's extra venom and hyper-volatility be explained? An intuitive answer would be that, like any other politician, he is liable to reverting his loyalties and positions at any moment to adapt to new political circumstances. That is however only partially true, and certainly does not shed any light on Jumblat's extreme case. More importantly, it does nothing to clarify our own expectations of Jumblat. Not too many people would be seriously surprised if one month from now Jumblat completely switched his stance yet again and reverted to praising Syria's stabilizing role in the region. Anyone would be seriously shocked, however, if next week Michel Aoun starts overtly romancing the White House.

    It is true that most (if not all) major Lebanese politicians pander to foreign players in exchange for internal support and a portion of the Lebanese political spoils. It is also true that allegiances often substantially switch with time. Rafic Hariri, for example, was Syria's main man in Lebanon for more than a decade, and then regional and local events moved him towards another camp. However, these transformations tend to be gradual in a rigorous and slow cause-to-effect way. Not so with Jumblat, whose quasi-instantaneous and seemingly incoherent switches are unparalleled on the Lebanese scene today.


    We have come to expect anything from Jumblat. There is literally no position that is taboo to him. The guy basically stands for absolutely nothing. There is not a single general underlying ideal or principle (good or bad, honorable or despicable) that guides his tactics.

    Jumblat is the pure Sectarian leader, uniquely and absolutely motivated by conserving and expanding his sect's (and consequently his) share in the country. He will aggressively and openly seek anyone's patronage (France, The States, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, Israel, Hariri, Nasrallah…) to sustain his power and influence, and everybody in Lebanon somehow accepts and expects that. Walid Jumblat may be the only Lebanese politician who is never asked to make sense. He is never liable for anything, even the most absurd behavior. As Ziad Rahbani brilliantly put it a few weeks ago, Jumblat would find no problem whatsoever in publicly insulting Bashar El Assad while simultaneously dispatching Ghazi El Aridi to Damascus to apologize to the Syrians and assure them that Jumblat had no idea how such shocking words could come out of his mouth.


    Walid Jumblat's unique position in Lebanese politics is not due to any of his personal traits but to the defining characteristic of the sect he represents, which is after all his whole raison d'être.


    Jumblat is the leader of one of the smallest sects in Lebanon. As such, he potentially has the most to lose in post-Syrian Lebanon if things don't go as he wishes. During the Syrian years, Jumblat enjoyed a power share that was largely disproportionate to the size of his sect. Lebanon's sectarian divides were definitely the defining feature in the political organization of that period, but they were very carefully monitored and controlled by the Syrians. Rather than a full-blown tribal reality where the power of each sect is largely determined by demographics, the Syrians established a power balance where their allies enjoyed a larger share at the expense of other marginalized players. On one hand, the major Christian sectarian leaders were blocked from participation, and the nature of Christian representation in government and parliament was largely decided by the Syrians. On the other hand, Hezbollah had not yet become a player in the country's highest institutions, and was content with its role of national resistance with guaranteed political cover supplied by the pro-Syrian government.


    Walid Jumblat was one of the main beneficiaries of this political structure. He enjoyed a parliamentary bloc and a share in the successive Hariri governments that he could not have possibly dreamed of if widely neutralized portions of the Lebanese population were allowed to participate in policy making.


    The Syrian withdrawal from Lebanon changed this reality. The old traditional Christian guard returned to the political scene. Hezbollah was now forced to take a more proactive stance in internal politics, now that support for their armed presence was no longer a given. All those new players were now going to actively pursue and demand their share. In fact, in practical terms, Jumblat might be the politician who in the long run is most likely to suffer the most due to the collapse of the old status-quo.

    Jumblat immediately realized two things:
    First, in a new reality where sectarianism was crystallized and intensified, any deal or coalition between the three major Lebanese players (Michel Aoun, Hezbollah, and Saad Hariri) would necessarily be at his expense (and also at the expense of his ex-enemy Samir Geagea, but that is a discussion for later).
    Second, in the case that a clear regional power emerges as the ultimate victor on the Lebanese scene, Jumblat must be certain to be in a good position in order to reap the benefits and extract as much power and influence as possible, just like he did in the Syrian years.


    Jumblat has subsequently drawn his post-Hariri strategy based on these two observations. On one hand, observing the sweeping neoconservative tidal wave in the region, he decided to completely throw in his lot in with the Bush project for the Middle East. On the other hand, with parliamentary elections approaching, he actively pursued isolating Michel Aoun from the March 14 coalition and blocking him from imposing his Christian nominees in the Chouf-Baabda area. This was achieved by receiving Hezbollah's backing in Baabda in exchange for false guarantees and thus securing victory for weak, marginal and easily manipulated Christian mini-leaders against Aoun's nominees.


    Jumblat took a risk by completely throwing himself at the feet of the Bush administration and its allies. He has completely burnt his bridges with the Syrians, and his fate is all the more linked to the success or failure of the American policy in the region. Just as any deal between Hariri and Hezbollah would constitute a major blow to his ambitions, any form of dialogue between the current Syrian government and the White House would spell disaster for Jumblat. Jumblat's worst nightmare is a détente between Iran, Syria and the United States, where Hezbollah's and Hariri's respective sponsors push for an internal coalition that would irrevocably slash his own influence. As such a scenario is never completely dismissible, Jumblat is in a continuous state of frenzy, as if in a race against time.


    The only way for Jumblat to guarantee that no such deal is ever reached is to altogether remove Hezbollah from the equation, either by another direct military strike, or by completely neutralizing Syria, thereby cutting them from their Iranian sponsors. Such cataclysmic events are not likely to happen anytime soon, and they are in any case completely and absolutely beyond Jumblat's circle of influence (which extends just a little further than the Mount Lebanon area). He could also settle for a civil war where Shias and Sunnis slaughter each other in Beirut while he reigns supreme in his small kingdom in the mountains, but that is a path that Hezbollah are extremely reluctant to take.


    This explains why Jumblat acts like a man with a serious nervous condition. He chose sides, and his side is not likely to achieve total victory anytime soon. In fact, his side might veer its policy in a more pragmatic direction sometime in the future (when it is the turn for a new American administration, or perhaps even sooner) without taking his fate into consideration.


    Jumblat took a risk but it was a risk he was forced to take. In fact, Jumblat is aware that the extremism of his political position must be inversely proportional to his actual real political size on the Lebanese scene. He knows he has not much to offer to his backers. Walid Jumblat is not Saad Hariri; he is not the leader of a relatively large and imposing sect with deep-rooted connections to a key country in the region. He is not Hassan Nasrallah either; he cannot mobilize hundreds of thousands of supporters within hours, nor is he the head of a sophisticated military entity that has demonstrated its ability to thwart a huge, complex and highly orchestrated war designed to neutralize it and even immerge with political capital to spend.


    Saad Hariri is a tool in the hands of the Saudis and the Americans in the sense that whatever local weight and influence he holds may be manipulated and exploited to his masters' benefit. Walid Jumblat is not even a tool. He longs to be a tool. He has nothing substantial to offer along with his services, which explains why he feels he must strive to place himself ideologically to the right of **** Cheney. He must be extremely loud in order to be heard.


    Much like Ahmed Jalabi in the days of the invasion of Iraq, Jumblat attempts to compensate his lack of any concrete usefulness by positioning himself as the most aggressively neoconservative figure of his political camp. Jalabi, a petty politician and gangster whose political presence in Iraqi society was by-and-large non-existent, convinced the American administration that he would be a most apt puppet by repeatedly voicing what the most lunatic elements in the Bush camp died to hear ("you are going to be greeted with flowers and rice", "everything will fall into place within a few days", "democracy shall flourish", etc). Similarly, Walid Jumblat continuously tries to convince the Americans that he is a most worthy agent by echoing an image of Iran and Hezbollah that lies in the collective consciousness of the most right-wing members of the administration (terrorists, Iranian militia, peace saboteurs, anti-democracy, etc).


    In fact, looking at the picture featuring him sitting in the company of Bush, I imagined Jumblat saying:

    "Mister President! Listen to me! I know you only vaguely know who I am. I know I am an insignificant provincial feudal leader who barely controls 5% of Lebanon's already miniscule population. I know I have nothing concrete to offer you except a few undisciplined armed thugs. But listen to me talking of Bashar El Assad! I called him a whale! Hear my opinion on Hezbollah! Olmert has got nothing on me! I am telling you, I am quite a catch! Now, how about some more money and weapons?"


    Nobody really knows which way things will eventually go in Lebanon. True disaster awaits if things go Jumblat's way. That is why every time he makes a public appearance, I closely watch Jumblat's demeanor. I feel slightly more at ease when his hair is overly disheveled, or when his facial expressions (eyes wide open, shouting obscenities at the top of his lungs) betray a semi-hysterical state. I then know that he is worried, that perhaps things are not moving as he wishes them to. I can then sleep more easily, at least for one night, until the next day.
     
    Abufijli

    Abufijli

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    Your problem is that you only get your info from the terrorist tv. The army reports and all security forces reports show that there was a camera inside a container. WJ didnt make up the stories, they are based on what the army is saying. Do you dare attacking the army?
    Of course Manar is not going to talk about the cameras or pvt phone network, or drug trafficking.
    I'm posting in an orange forum. I don't give a **** to address people like you, else I would've searched for the Hizbollah one. Are you planning to control this forum to and start classifying people as traitors and non?

    Pathetic!
    Your problem is you are infectd with a disease called Hezbollahphobia, you need to seek immediate help.

    Anyways, let us assume what is being said is true, who can or will stop HA from doing what it sees fit to protect us from aggression? You? Jumblatt? Hariri???

    That is right, all of you are powerless and cowards, I suggest if you wish to live as an Israeli/American slave you move to Saudi, Egypt or Jordan, cos Lebanon is not bowing down to nobody.....
     
    Venom

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    بعد فشل آخر إبتكارات مساعد وزيرة الخارجية الأخيرة ديفيد ولش الذي تمثّل بمحاولة عزل العماد عون، عبر محاولة إحتواء حزب الله لإستعادته إلى حظيرة التحالف الرباعي وإغرائه بطيّ ملف سلاحه وإحالته على الإستراتيجية الدفاعية وفق ما أعلنه صراحة النائب وليد جنبلاط، الأمر الذي واجهه حزب الله بالرفض المطلق...

    وبعدما بدا واضحاً تعذّر الإقدام على خطوة إنتحارية عبر الإقدام على إنتخاب رئيس للجمهورية بالنصف زائد واحداً، وبعودة الأمين العام لجامعة الدول العربية عمرو موسى بخفّي حنين من محاولته الأخيرة تحريك عجلة الحوار المتوقّفة، وقبل أيام من وصول الرئيس الأميركي جورج بوش إلى المنطقة يوم الثالث عشر من أيار الجاري المتزامن مع موعد الجلسة المحدّدة لإنتخاب رئيس للجمهورية، سارع فريق السلطة إلى إعتماد منحى تصعيدي مفاجئ يؤشر إلى بدء أسبوع من المواجهات الساخنة، وكأنّه تبلّغ قراراً بدفع الأزمة اللبنانية في إتجاه تفجيري ينعي كل المبادرات والمساعي الهادفة إلى إحياء الحوار بين اللبنانيين وصولاً إلى حلّ لبناني – لبناني للأزمة المتفاقمة.

    وبدا واضحاً أن فريق الموالاة إنّما يخوض حرباً إنقلابية على ما سبق له أن إعتبره ثوابت وخطوطاً حمراً لا يجوز إقحامها في الصراع السياسي القائم مع المعارضة، وفي مقدّمتها مؤسسة الجيش ورئيسها التوافقي، وقوى الأمن الداخلي، والقضاء، في آن، وذلك بإثارة مسألتي وجود مراقبة لحزب الله في جوار مطار بيروت الدولي وشبكة إتصالات هاتفية خاصة بالحزب، تمهيداً لإعتباره "مشروع توسع" لبسط هيمنته على كامل الأرض اللبنانية.

    وفي واقع الأمر أن لا جديد في ذلك، لأن الجميع يعلم أن إستهداف إسرائيل حزب الله ورئيسه والمقاومة بعد حرب تموز الفائت لم يعد خافياً على أحد لاسيما بإعتراف قادة الدولة العبرية بعزمهم على إغتيال الأمين العام للحزب وقادته، أوجب إقامة شبكة حماية أمنية للمقاومة، طالما كانت حكومة السنيورة في بيانها الوزاري، وقبل أن تصبح حكومة الطرف الواحد، تعترف بها وبخصوصية المقاومة، أسوة بالشبكات والمربعات الأمنية القائمة، سواء في المخيّمات الفلسطينية أو في دوائر مقرّات إقامات كل رموز فريق السلطة في العاصمة والمناطق.

    أما إثارة هذه المسألة، وفي هذه اللحظة بالذات، وبعد فشل محاولتي الفصل بين العماد عون وحزب الله، ومن ثمّ بين الحزب والمعارضة، فتؤشر إلى بدء مخطّط تفكيك هذه المعارضة وإستفراد مكوّناتها الواحد بعد الآخر، وبالمفرق وصولاً إلى الجملة، حتى لو إقتضى الأمر ضرب صورة المؤسسة الوطنية العسكرية بإظهارها عاجزة عن ضبط الأمن في البلاد، مع ما يصيب ذلك صورة قائدها الرئاسية التوافقية، وإظهار الأجهزة والقوى الأمنية مخترقة وعاجزة، وعلى قاعدة إما أن تكون الدولة لنا وحدنا أو لا دولة!.

    وفي هذا السياق يتساءل المراقبون لماذا لم تقدم سلطة الأمر الواقع، ما دامت لديها السلطة والقرار، على معالجة مسألتي المطار والشبكة الهاتفية في إطار المعالجة الذي كان معتمداً في حالات مماثلة مع حزب الله والذي أثبت نجاحه دائماً، ولماذا إثارة هاتين المسألتين على المنابر السياسية والإعلامية، وفي أضعف الإيمان لماذا لم تتم المعالجة على الصعيدين الأمني والقضائي، بدلاً من تسريب مراسلات عسكرية وأمنية سرّية، وأين هي مسؤولية وزيري الدفاع والداخلية والقضاء في هذا الشأن؟. وهل إن معالجة المربّعات الأمنية ستكون شاملة كل المربّعات وشبكات المراقبة الخاصة أم أن الأمر محصور فقط بالمقاومة، ولا يتخطّاها إلى المليشيات المستحدثة والمربّعات الرسمية التي تحوط مقرّات الرموز السياسية والمليشياوية الأخرى؟.

    ويلاحظ المراقبون أن هذا التطوّر التصعيدي يتزامن مع حملة دولية على إيران وسوريا، وكذلك عودة الإشكالات الأمنية المتنقلة، بدءاً بإطلاق قنبلة صوتية على خيم المعتصمين في ساحة رياض الصلح، مروراً بإشتباكات ليلية في الأوزاعي والمزرعة ومناطق أخرى، وسط إتهامات لحزب الله بإقامة شريط توسعي ساحلي من الضاحية جنوباً وتمدّد في إتجاه باقي المناطق الداخلية، علماً أن معالجة هذه الأمور، في حال صحّتها، يمكن حلّها بالحوار والتوافق اللذين يصرّ فريق الموالاة على رفضهما.

    وفي إنتظار ما ستقدم عليه حكومة الأمر الواقع من قرارات في جلستها المقرّرة اليوم حيال مسألتي المطار والشبكات الهاتفية، تتأهّب قوى من الإتحادات والنقابات والهيئات العمالية والتعليمية والشعبية في القطاعين العام والخاص لتحرّك واسع مطالبة بزيارة الرواتب والأجور المجمّدة منذ العام 1996، ورفع الحد الأدنى، وكبح جماح الغلاء الذي يلتهم القيمة الشرائية للعملة اللبنانية الرازحة تحت عبء خدمة الدين وتراكمه وسوء السياسات المالية والإقتصادية الذي يوشك أن يؤدي إلى الإنفجار الإجتماعي.

    وفي الموجز يبدو واضحاً أن هذه السلطة القائمة إنّما تسعى إلى دفع الأزمة نحو التفاقم، ربّما تمهيداً لتدويل الوضع اللبناني بعدما أفشلت اللبننة والتعريب، فيما الحل الحواري موجود في يدها التي تحمل مصباح ديوجين باحثة عن الحل في كلّ الأمكنة إلا حيث هو موجود، ما يطرح التساؤل الجدّي والمبرّر: لمصلحة من تعمل هذه السلطة؟.

    Tayyar.org daily report


    it seems Jumblat's only survival is only war.....
     
    lebnan_lilkel

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    Walid Jumblatt, Certified Nutball

    February 23, 2005 in Uncategorized by Justin Raimondo | No comments

    Something I left out of today’s column: in trying to back up his assertion that Syria is to blame for the assassination of Lebanese politician-businessman Rafik Hariri, Michael Young cites one Walid Jumblatt, the head of the Progressive Socialist Party. But who is this guy, Jumblatt, and why should we take him seriously? Well, we shouldn’t take him seriously, as evidenced by his past statements (reported by the New York Sun, via National Review):

    “The Lebanese MP is also known for espousing conspiracy theories against America. On April 28, 2004, he gave an interview to Al Arabiyya TV, in which he detailed how America was really behind September 11: ‘Who invented Osama bin Laden?! The Americans, the CIA invented him so they could fight the Soviets in Afghanistan together with some of the Arab regimes. Osama bin Laden is like a ghost, popping up when needed. This is my opinion.’”

    So, this Jumblatt character is to be believed — why? Young never says. Jumblatt’s loony ravings continue:

    “Mr. Jumblatt was asked ‘Even 9/11?’ and answered: ‘Even 9/11…Why didn’t the sirens go off when the four hijacked planes took off?’”

    He’s not only loony-tunes, he’s a rabid anti-Semite and racist:

    “In addition to hating America, Mr. Jumblatt has also spoke against the countries that support America. Lebanon’s Daily Star published a February 3, 2003, article quoting him as saying that the true axis of evil is one of ‘oil and Jews’ … The oil axis is present in most of the U.S. administration, beginning with its president, vice-president, and top advisers, including [Condoleezza] Rice, who is oil-colored, while the axis of Jews is present with Paul Wolfowitz.’”

    Jumblatt’s rantings are about as credible as this entire blame-Syria scenario, which is to say the whole thing is bull. What’s striking is that the War Party would stoop this low: citing a loon like Jumblatt whose views are positively Hitlerian. And it’s not as if Young didn’t know about Jumblatt’s crackpot views: after all, this account originally appeared in the Beirut Daily Star, where Young edits the opinion page.
     
    needfortruth

    needfortruth

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    Jumblatt has never had to perform as many tricks and pull as many rabbits out of his many hats as he had to do recently. Jumblatt has tried many times during the last couple of years to lure the 'Chia' back into an electoral alliance that would guarantee him some kind of survival for the next phase. One of his biggest mistakes in this regard is his alliance with Israel against HA, assuming that HA was going to be wiped out. It is the same mistake the Arab nations did. These same Arab nations are now using all kinds of persuasions techniques to coerce Syria into fixing the situation for them.

    The dilemma today is that the loyalist camp has no viable price to pay that Syria would accept. The only way they seem to be able to fix their dilemma is to bet on another Israeli attack on HA, but successful this time. Israel and the US seem reluctant to wage another war, or may be using the threat of war against Syria as a coercive tool for bigger things, thus, the alternating between threats and offering candy to the Syrians and allies. Only the Tayyar must remain under attack. Contrary to all the intended results, Syria and HA for that matter has no interest in giving the ones who attempted to wipe them out a fighting chance. The Syrians’ latest agenda is the re strengthening the less dangerous Maronite establishment in Lebanon. After Saudi bought the Taef and established what it perceives at its mini-Saudi, under the ruling of the faithful mini-royal family, the Harriri’s, assisted by none other than Igore (Jumblatt), they found themselves in the undesirable position of drowning into the Lebanese political muds that no one proved capable of coming out of them with taking significant damage.

    So, we always witness Jumblatt unleashing unprecedented attacks on HA after every failed attempt for reconciliation. After describing the attempt to revive the old electoral alliance of 2005 as equivalent to making a pact with the Devil by the Chia leadership, Jumblatt realized that all his candy offering did not succeed in luring his ex-lovers back to his ‘electoral bed’. It was only natural that he unleashes his wroth onto his ‘ex-lovers’.

    So, with all the secret security and political reports being exchanged minute-by-minute, he suddenly found one important enough to release on TV and share with the rest of us: watch out everyone, HA is about to do something big! No surprise if an assassination takes place followed by a direct accusation of HA as the next level of upping the ante in this dirty political game also know as Lebanese politics.
    From Nasrallah's speech today:

    - جنبلاط مستعد للإنقلاب شرط ان نقوم بتحالف رباعي معه وهذا تصرّف غير اخلاقي لن نقبله​
     
    blossom

    blossom

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    i hope FM fighters will look around them and see if there are any PSP fighters
    :O

    tsk tsk tsk
     
    Youchka

    Youchka

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    It's sad to have it confirmed that Siniora did not want this whole thing in the first place. The same warlords driving our country to war AGAIN.
     
    Mich

    Mich

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    Does anyone know what Jumblat is saying on LBC?
    Honestly I don't have the stomach to watch him but I wanna know in general what he is lying.
     
    needfortruth

    needfortruth

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    Nothing new or you haven't heard before. Sounds like he wants the army to face HA.
     
    HannaTheCrusader

    HannaTheCrusader

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    as usual they are looking for a way out, since they are losing all the frounds, also this resembles the situation on gazza when hamas took over in 2 days.
    the issue is this habitual liar , will turn tomorrow and deny that they agreed to anything.
    i feel we need a clear statement and signatures and unequivocal statment , before HA stop his liberation move.
    WJ, is worried because SHN only attacked him and not sa3doun as he had hoped.
    he knows what that means, he managed to keep his area calm but for how long that bas..ard.
    only good in being a tough guy against us. by killing and genociding the christians.
    may god punish him and his killers
     
    RamitallicA

    RamitallicA

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    the guy is so yellow, and can't wait for the end of the mess he caused :smile:

    for once, someone made this flip flopper stand alone in the corner :wink:

    You should watch it guys :s there's something abnormal happening to jumblat :biggrin:
     
    RamitallicA

    RamitallicA

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    fires near Jumblat's house can be heard live on LBC
     
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    barid

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    the guy is so yellow, and can't wait for the end of the mess he caused :smile:

    for once, someone made this flip flopper stand alone in the corner :wink:

    You should watch it guys :s there's something abnormal happening to jumblat :biggrin:
    Nothing wrong with him. He always looks like that.
     
    needfortruth

    needfortruth

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    Jumblat and Harriri both looked terrified. Harriri could not get the words out, he could only insist on the point the battle is sectarian in order to keep his guys inflamed. As Aoun accurately described, that was a sign of weakness. As for Jumblatt, he is trying to surrender without sounding like he is surrendering.
     
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    chafic

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    Too mild, shady and wicked for the good of the Lebanese state. Even a surrender for the sake of saving innocent souls could have been presented in a much better way.
     
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