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Who will you vote for next elections

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Why would Murr lose this time? He got a lot of votes last time
This kind of electoral law punishes independent candidates in the long run.
It encourages parties and blocs.

Murr is all alone. Ma2tou3 men chajra, plus he s very old. The major part of his base has been scattered among kataeb fpm and ouwet
 

SAVO

Active Member
Like in 2018, I will not vote For anyone who allies with hizballa , Hariri and berri.
that’s dumb politics if u want to fight corruption.


there is no poliical debate in lebanon since 40 years. the is no exchange of opinions or political positions ..there is a sort of one way communication top - down..
i will give you an example.
in the shia community there is the mahdale rule since 30 years.. what sort of political debate is there on this community ? all shia know thay berri is a thief and all of them silent.. if any voice raise above the line the iron fist of ze3ran and thugs id ready to beat the hell up of that voice ..that what later became as a praxis of " Sa7sou7 " and the worst of it this culture became a normal thing and acceptable by most of lebanese ..
MOU came to support this handicap of democracy and worsen the situation.. since their concern is only in their narrow sectarian political agenda and they find in LF thrit only rival..
 
Why do I have the impression that no one is willing to cope with FPM during the coming elections , except tashnag ? (Christian sector only)

LF / Kataeb / Marada no way yemcho ma3 tayyar

Farid el khazen / Mouawad / Nehmat Efrem no way

Boutros Harb / Michel Pharaon no way

Those who could : mansour el bone, either fattouch or skaff, but not both, as one is for the other what is Lf is for fpm and vice-versa, that is the devil incarnate, and sarkis sarkis. Anyway good luck
 

oldschool

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With the exception of Bon, FPM didn’t benefit from any of those guys in votes. Their votes were used for their own seats. The benefit was getting them to join the takattol.

the lack of alliances won’t hurt us. The problem is getting the grey zone indépendants to vote for us again.
 
With the exception of Bon, FPM didn’t benefit from any of those guys in votes. Their votes were used for their own seats. The benefit was getting them to join the takattol.

the lack of alliances won’t hurt us. The problem is getting the grey zone indépendants to vote for us again.
But the question remains: will Bon accept to be the good samaritan again and give all his votes for the FPM without securing a seat for himself ?
On the aftermath of the elections he said: ghalta w 3melta.

He ran the elections with a majoritarian mindset; he did not delve enough into the statistical intricacies of the law (it is indeed a very difficult law from a candidate perspective). And it seems he's not willing to fall in the trap again. He would rather join farid haykal, as his chances to earn a seat with him are higher.
 

oldschool

Active Member
^ eh alla ywaf2o. I don’t think it’s that big of a difference. Fpm should work on getting two seats. It can’t get more anyway. One seat will be a setback.

Fpm was clear with them all. Fpm votes will be for fpmers w u get ur own tafdilis. If u win sehten aa albkon.
 
The grey zone will go this time to revolution/moujtama3 madaneh candidates unless they run the elections as they did last time, that is, unprepared, disorganized and motivated by self-interest.

FPM would then have a chance
 

Robin Hood

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Only a sheep will vote for the current failures of a party.

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Rafidi

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there is no poliical debate in lebanon since 40 years. the is no exchange of opinions or political positions ..there is a sort of one way communication top - down..
i will give you an example.
in the shia community there is the mahdale rule since 30 years.. what sort of political debate is there on this community ? all shia know thay berri is a thief and all of them silent.. if any voice raise above the line the iron fist of ze3ran and thugs id ready to beat the hell up of that voice ..that what later became as a praxis of " Sa7sou7 " and the worst of it this culture became a normal thing and acceptable by most of lebanese ..
MOU came to support this handicap of democracy and worsen the situation.. since their concern is only in their narrow sectarian political agenda and they find in LF thrit only rival..

Do you support a one district, nonsectarian electoral law based on proportionality?

If yes, I respect your above criticism.

Do you know why? Because with aforementioned electoral law, a Shia would be allowed to vote from anywhere within Lebanon and for any candidate. This would be the real test of democracy and free choice. It means people have their democratic rights restored and all Lebanese votes are equal.

But you cant have an electoral law based on sectarian divisions and want to criticize Berri or Jumblatt or whoever for not tolerating competition in his areas. It makes no sense.

To Berri and his likes, it is a survival of the fittest race. So do the needed and break the grip of the big blocs on the individual voter and give independents the freedom to contest and equally get votes from anywhere in Lebanon through a fair, democratic and modern electoral law.

I dont really know what sort of democracy we are practicing when someone living in Beirut has to travel all the way to Akkar or Bint Jbeil to cast a ballot. It makes no sense. Our system is not democratic. Our elections are not democratic either thanks to the electoral law. So you cant really use democratic principles to criticize one side for playing by the undemocratic rules. They all behave the same way. This is the reason why our elections are not contested and there is no competition. The.big blocs all know the results before the votes are cast. And if you dont vote, it wont affect them either. Dissenting vote is hammered. It is nonsense and just a show of popularity without opposition and nothing else.

Any reform starts with a democratic, representative, fair, equal and modern electoral law. Otherwise, we would be where we are for a long time to come. And speaking about the electoral law for the parliamentary elections, we also need to vote for the president directly. Break the grip of the dictators in parliament. They have too much power to be opposed. The system makes them too powerful and relevant. Every four years, a section of Lebanese hand them over the country and the future the entire population for another four years. And the same old and rotten faces keep winning. The reason you see them in parliament for decades. Lebanese really have a choice between making a country for all by breaking sectarian chains, or remaining where we are as sectarian entities competing on how to outdo one another. The choice is for every Lebanese.
 
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