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Why do Arabic governments treat their citizens like livestock/animals?

Nayla

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I think the Egyptian embassy is in Bir Hasan not Cola. But i might be mistaken.
Hi again Jo, I remember it was in Cola because first thing I did when I arrived in Lebanon was renew my passport in the embassy since it was about to expire, so I've been there before long time ago, anyway my mom knows the location 100% so she'll be coming with me tomorrow.
You mentioned earlier that you contacted someone about the post who might have useful info, any updates on that? thanks in advance!
It is between Cola and Bir Hassan..
Wish you Good Luck and hopefully it will work and you will be able to travel to Europe so you can pursue your studies there.
 

Dark Angel

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STORY TIME:

I am posting here because I'm sick and tired of being treated like an animal, and I don't know where to go with my story or who to vent to and that's why I'm here today, to share my story of being mistreated for almost 3 years..so here goes:

First I'd like to share a little bit about my background, I'm Tyler and I'm 22 years old, residing in Beirut, Lebanon at the moment, I've been living here for almost 3 and a half years now.

My mother is Syrian but my dad is Egyptian, I was born in the UAE in 1995, mom and dad went ahead and got a divorce when I was only 4 years old and I haven't heard or seen my dad ever since.
We left the UAE with my mom back to Syria when i was 7 years old, although despite being born in the UAE and my mother being Syrian and having lived in Syria from 2002 till 2014 (12 years if you can't do the math) I somehow ended up with only the Egyptian citizenship (or citizenshit, depending on your perspective)
since in Arabic countries you don't get the "privilege" to have your mother's citizenship, you only get it from your dad's side, why? I'll never know why.

I had to renew my residence permit every year in Syria like a foreigner every single year for 12 years, but hey! at least I was able to renew it without any problems..

But all "good" things have to come to an end, right? as we all know the civil war/revolution/-insert fancy name here- happened in Syria few years back and things became quickly unstable and explosion started happening everywhere almost on a weekly basis in Damascus where we lived, it became clear rather quickly that there was no future for any of us in Syria anymore.

So a few days after 2014's new year's eve we all sat together (me, my mom and my sister who's 3 years younger than me) and we decided that we should get the hell outta there ASAP.
Plan was to sell all our assets and move to Europe and start over new and continue our education and live happily ever after, sounded really nice in theory, not so nice in application though..

Long story short, we sold everything and took the cash and moved to Beirut in March 2014 so we can from there travel to Europe.
And it was here where this "perfect" story took a very DARK turn.. without going into details (because it aches my heart to even think about it) we went broke.. we lost all the money we had in the bank and our balance was literally $0. Just like that we were suddenly in a strange country with no friends or relatives or any money anymore..
So now what? what do we do? and more importantly..time is ticking and I want to continue my education, I didn't have the time for this! this was the worst time for such a thing to happen.. but I quickly realized that my dreams and future have to sit on the back burner because I had to strap my self in for a loooooooong ride..
Because you see, my tourist visa was gonna expire soon in October 2014 (I kept renewing it from March till October where they told me "you can't renew it anymore, you'll have to exit the country and apply for another visa") and October was a month away at the time.. with no cash in hand to even attempt to find a walkaround to renew my residence permit, I was losing my mind, I don't wanna be in a strange country illegally! that thought terrified me, and to add insult to injury, our house rent was gonna expire in 2 weeks and we don't have a back up plan..

So again.. long story short:
we moved to a shitty house in a shitty area in Beirut which I won't name because I don't wanna offend anybody, and my mom found a part time job since she's Syrian and she's a woman no one asked her about her legal papers when she would go through checkpoints, me on the other hand had to stay locked up in the house because if i went through any checkpoint and they asked me for my visa/papers I'll be screwed, I'll go to jail! which isn't the future I had in mind, not to mention that it'll cause me all kinds of problems when I somehow eventually find a way to travel to Europe to pursue my education, if I had a "criminal" record..well that'll cause a lot of complications unfortunately.
Meanwhile the months were passing we were also at the same time asking around for a way to renew the residence permit so I can become legal here and at least be able to find a job and save up money for travel, we came across a lot of people who seemed like scammers, but this one person was recommended by my sister (he was her friend) seemed like he was trustworthy enough and promised that he could renew it for me since he had people on the inside.
Skip 6 months of waiting for this guy and paying him around $700 in total and listening to his lies and excuses, I realized that he scammed me :') and he wasn't gonna help because he couldn't, doing some more digging I realized that as an Egyptian citizen I can't renew my residence permit in Lebanon, I have to leave to Egypt THEN apply for a permanent visa in Lebanon, which I can't do since I don't have the money to do and I don't know how the General Security of Lebanon is gonna react to me when I tell them "Hey guys, don't mind my Syrian accent, but I've been illegal in Lebanon for almost 2 years, what do I do?" I was terrified of the idea..I didn't know what would happen

Skip to 2 months earlier and I finally got to meet my girlfriend, she's Swedish and we've been together for 4 years now, but we never got to meet in person, she got a job and saved up some money to come and visit me.
We met and everything was nice and cute and it was awesome.
When she saw how shitty my situation was and how ****ed I am, she gave me her laptop and iPad and told me to sell them, then she sent me some cash when she got back to Sweden so I can take all this money and somehow fix my desperate situation..

So finally after 3 years of living in my bedroom not daring to leave the house or go out in fear of being imprisoned for something that I didn't ask for, I finally now had some cash to be able to do something about it!

and that brings me to today, I woke up and called my girlfriend on Skype, she gave me her Skype password so I can use her account to call the General Security and ask about my situation (she has Skype credits), why am I calling from Skype you may ask? because first of all I don't have credits on my phone to make a call (yes, that's how poor I am) and 2nd is because I felt more safe calling them from Skype where they can't somehow track my location and arrest me, I know it may sound silly, but I'm really paranoid and I think it's natural to be scared of the unknown.

So first thing, I called the General Security and an operator picked up, he went "Amn 3am, kif fini sa3dk?"
and as soon as I started speaking the call dropped for some reason, weird..
So I called one more time and again someone picked up and said "Amn 3am, kif fini sa3dk?" and again I started speaking and before I got to say anything the guy went "where are you calling from?" to which I replied "I'm calling from Beirut" and then he said "why is your phone number weird then?" to which I replied "it's because it's cheaper" and then he said in a threatening aggressive manner "well, you have to call us from a number that we can see on our screen and know where you're calling from, okay?!" and I was like "okay sir..I'm sorry but I didn't know that" and he went "please do us a favor and call from a normal number, thanks" -click- and he hung up!

If I wasn't already feeling threatened and stressed about this whole thing enough already, now I officially am!
But no problem, I'll just use some of the money I got from my girlfriend and buy some phone credits and call back later..

But I thought while I'm at it, why not call the Egyptian embassy? since I'm legally speaking, an Egyptian citizen :) they might know what I should do next!
So I dialed their number and called, an answering machine picked up and started listing the options they have and what I should dial for each option, none of the options applied to me, so I decided to dial a random option so I can speak to a human being and perhaps they would then redirect me to the correct department, I dialed 110 or something I don't even remember..and it kept on ringing...and ringing..and ringing for 5 minutes straight and nobody picked up of course! :D

I went to google and googled their number again, which then lead me to finding the phone number for the ambassador's personal office, which I took and called; his secretary picked up and ever so nicely said "hey, how may I help you?" and then I told her my whole story in summary and she was like "you should call this number" and she gave me a number for the branch of the embassy that deals with these situations (expired residence permit, etc)
So I took the number and called, it rang for a good 30 seconds and then the person on the other side just rejected the call (gave me "number busy")
I
called once again and this time someone picked up! he went "hey" i was like "hi, how are you doing today?" and he was like "who am i speaking to?"
which is the most stupidest question you could ask someone who's calling an embassy, like what am I supposed to answer with? give him my name? like I got so confused
So I told him my name and then told him that the embassy gave me his number and as soon as im explaining he cut me off and said "WHO AM I SPEAKING TO!?" and -CLICK- hung up on me!

I kept trying to call him for the next 15 minutes and he kept hanging up in my face for some reason..
I gave up on calling him all together, I decided to call back the embassy's original number, so i called and a woman picked up this time and said in a cold unenthusiastic bored way "hello." and i went "hey" and she was like "what do you want?" and i went "I'm an Egyptian citizen living in Lebanon and my residence permit expired so I was wonde.." and she cut me off and said "OKAY WAIT HERE" and instantly put me on hold to some silly music that just caused my already slowly building anger to explode..I waited there on the line for 5 straight minutes and the music kept on playing but no one ever picked up...I just gave up and hung up...this was an hour ago..

I can't help it but feel like I'm completely and utterly ****ed now.. no one gives me any clear answers on what I should legally do to get out of this situation, the people who are employed and are getting paid to answer these questions don't give two shits about their job and certainly about my fate either,
If I had the Syrian citizenship then I could easily get a "kafil" and renew my residence permit long time ago, but that law doesn't apply to me since I'm Egyptian, since Syria and all arabic countries for that matter don't recognize women as humans to give their kids the citizenship
No one will care that this is a humanitarian situation about someone running away from death and war, someone who was stripped from options or control over their own fate...the Syrian government doesn't give a shit, the Egyptian embassy doesn't give a shit, and I feel like the Lebanese government wants me jailed..

I'm tired of living in my room for 3 years straight isolated from the outside world while all my friends are all over the world finishing up their education and graduating and started their life while I'm sitting here and watching my situation getting more desperate by every second passing by.. I just wanna get out of here and go to Egypt where I could at least be a legal citizen and at least find a job so I can support myself.

I don't think that anyone will read all of this, I didn't intend for this to be as long as it turned out to be, I just wanted to vent, and if anyone made it all the way till the end and read everything...I wanna say, thank you for listening :)

do not despair, stay strong and keep the faith. my advise to you is to take a little walk every day, meet new people, make good friends. do not stay inside your room out of fear from prison, this is the fastest way to become a prisoner of your own room and your own solitude. meet some happy people and try to keep smiling, it will change your life towards the better, might even dissipate some dark clouds and drive them away :)

now i am not sure about this, but if you and your swedish gf genuinely like each other, then maybe getting married wouldn't be a such a bad idea and you guys could start a new life in sweden.
 

gilthemaster

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Its good they didn't give you the Syrian citizenship otherwise you would have won " the laziest Syrian" award. Badal ma tiktob hek post habal to make us feel sorry for your unexcusable lazy life, You should have walked from your house to the Egyptian embassy . Ya zalami The Syrians Walked from Syria to Germany winta, practicing self jailing, Ma Fik timshi lal cola? kief ilak 3ain 3 yrs 23id bil bet relying on your mom and girlfriend for food and money?

Yes the lebanese army M3ammam ismak 3al 7awajiz, far3 elma3loumat is specifically wiretapping your phone line to figure out your where about, wazir edda5liyeh a3lan 3an 2000 lira award for any information that lead to your arrest. lol don't flatter yourself, ma 7ada ilo jlattak

Even though ma 7ada in the government is personally after you, I really wish They do catch you because lazy people like you need to be put in jail, away from mama, maybe you can learn a thing or 2 about self reliance, responsibility and motivation
 

tyclegg

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Its good they didn't give you the Syrian citizenship otherwise you would have won " the laziest Syrian" award. Badal ma tiktob hek post habal to make us feel sorry for your unexcusable lazy life, You should have walked from your house to the Egyptian embassy . Ya zalami The Syrians Walked from Syria to Germany winta, practicing self jailing, Ma Fik timshi lal cola? kief ilak 3ain 3 yrs 23id bil bet relying on your mom and girlfriend for food and money?

Yes the lebanese army M3ammam ismak 3al 7awajiz, far3 elma3loumat is specifically wiretapping your phone line to figure out your where about, wazir edda5liyeh a3lan 3an 2000 lira award for any information that lead to your arrest. lol don't flatter yourself, ma 7ada ilo jlattak

Even though ma 7ada in the government is personally after you, I really wish They do catch you because lazy people like you need to be put in jail, away from mama, maybe you can learn a thing or 2 about self reliance, responsibility and motivation
You're right, it's inexcusable :) if it was about going to the Egyptian embassy I would've done that a long time ago, but seems like you've missed the part about me not having ANY CASH and not knowing how the embassy would react if I went there, in my mind I knew that whatever solution they were gonna give me was gonna require at least a little bit of cash, which I as of a couple of days ago do have that cash.
And about me getting a job, erm, I was living in Da7ye for the majority of my time being broke, the part I was living in could be best described as....racist..? since I had a Syrian accent and my real name was [...], I didn't feel welcomed at all, I don't like to go into details since that was literally the worst period of my life, but I'll just tell you that I told the summary of my story and I didn't go into every single detail, but trust me when I say that I didn't get into my isolation from lack of trying :)
No one liked us where we were living so it was really hard to get a job, not to mention the freakin depression that hits a human being when they suddenly out of nowhere lose everything, their future, hopes, dreams, house, and lifestyle. Don't lecture me, sir while you don't have a single idea of how it would be like to be in my shoes, thanks.
 
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Zilzel

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Its good they didn't give you the Syrian citizenship otherwise you would have won " the laziest Syrian" award. Badal ma tiktob hek post habal to make us feel sorry for your unexcusable lazy life, You should have walked from your house to the Egyptian embassy . Ya zalami The Syrians Walked from Syria to Germany winta, practicing self jailing, Ma Fik timshi lal cola? kief ilak 3ain 3 yrs 23id bil bet relying on your mom and girlfriend for food and money?

Yes the lebanese army M3ammam ismak 3al 7awajiz, far3 elma3loumat is specifically wiretapping your phone line to figure out your where about, wazir edda5liyeh a3lan 3an 2000 lira award for any information that lead to your arrest. lol don't flatter yourself, ma 7ada ilo jlattak

Even though ma 7ada in the government is personally after you, I really wish They do catch you because lazy people like you need to be put in jail, away from mama, maybe you can learn a thing or 2 about self reliance, responsibility and motivation

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You OK guy?
 

SeaAb

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You're right, it's inexcusable :) if it was about going to the Egyptian embassy I would've done that a long time ago, but seems like you've missed the part about me not having ANY CASH and not knowing how the embassy would react if I went there, in my mind I knew that whatever solution they were gonna give me was gonna require at least a little bit of cash, which I as of a couple of days ago do have that cash.
And about me getting a job, erm, I was living in Da7ye for the majority of my time being broke, the part I was living in could be best described as....racist..? since I had a Syrian accent and my real name was Omar, I didn't feel welcomed at all, I don't like to go into details since that was literally the worst period of my life, but I'll just tell you that I told the summary of my story and I didn't go into every single detail, but trust me when I say that I didn't get into my isolation from lack of trying :)
No one liked us where we were living so it was really hard to get a job, not to mention the freakin depression that hits a human being when they suddenly out of nowhere lose everything, their future, hopes, dreams, house, and lifestyle. Don't lecture me, sir while you don't have a single idea of how it would be like to be in my shoes, thanks.
You don't have to explain yourself to this douche. Stay positive...
 

tyclegg

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You don't have to explain yourself to this douche. Stay positive...
Thank you..it's just that people like him are a part of the reason why I don't go outside around my house to meet new people, it's that kind of judgement that makes me insecure to share my story or meet new people, I always feel like no one would understand, but everyone here so far is being supportive and nice and understanding and that really motivated me to keep pushing until I get my problem solved :)
 

Indie

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Its good they didn't give you the Syrian citizenship otherwise you would have won " the laziest Syrian" award. Badal ma tiktob hek post habal to make us feel sorry for your unexcusable lazy life, You should have walked from your house to the Egyptian embassy . Ya zalami The Syrians Walked from Syria to Germany winta, practicing self jailing, Ma Fik timshi lal cola? kief ilak 3ain 3 yrs 23id bil bet relying on your mom and girlfriend for food and money?

Yes the lebanese army M3ammam ismak 3al 7awajiz, far3 elma3loumat is specifically wiretapping your phone line to figure out your where about, wazir edda5liyeh a3lan 3an 2000 lira award for any information that lead to your arrest. lol don't flatter yourself, ma 7ada ilo jlattak

Even though ma 7ada in the government is personally after you, I really wish They do catch you because lazy people like you need to be put in jail, away from mama, maybe you can learn a thing or 2 about self reliance, responsibility and motivation

Since you seem fond of lecturing people, how about a little lecture addressed to you? And it won't be as cruel as you've been to our new friend :)

1 - It is easy to judge others when we are not in their shoes and when we don't know the details and intricacies of their life.

2 - Even if you were right in your assessment (which you are not), there is no reason why you should express yourself in such a manner. Perhaps you should ask yourself what is making you so angry, why you are attempting to humiliate another person, and why you are wishing him horrible things? It can't have anything to do with him since he's a stranger you've never met.

3 - If you're not willing to help someone asking for help, simply staying quiet will do.

4 - Speaking of motivation, you might want to get motivated in improving yourself before attempting to "improve" others:

“Let no evil talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for edifying, as fits the occasion, that it may impart grace to those who hear.”

Don't interpret this as an attack, but it would not be right to sit quietly and watch you bully someone. You're more than welcome to participate in the conversation but please respect other people's feelings and dignity.
 

tyclegg

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UPDATE:

So I've been up today since 3:30 AM anxiously waiting for the time when we have to go to the embassy, it's 6:51 AM and my mom is up now and I asked her about when we're gonna leave to the embassy, she told me that she made some calls and asked around and they told her I could do something in the embassy called "tr7il taw3i" and I wouldn't have to pay a dime or do time in jail either! :D
BUT sadly we wont be going to the embassy today :( she told me they'll ask us about where we're living and all kinds of questions, me, my mom and my sister all have expired residence permits so if we're gonna do this we gotta do it together, so therefor my mom is gonna make some phone calls today and ask around more on this topic and perhaps we'll be going to the embassy tomorrow or the day after, depending on what new information we'll be finding.
I'll just take this day to go to a photographer and have some photos taken since it's required to have my passport AND 2 photographs of myself in the "tr7il tw3i" application, I'll keep this thread updated with any new developments on my situation,
Thank you all for the support and motivation you've given me so far, it really means to me.
 

Dark Angel

Legendary Member
Thank you..it's just that people like him are a part of the reason why I don't go outside around my house to meet new people, it's that kind of judgement that makes me insecure to share my story or meet new people, I always feel like no one would understand, but everyone here so far is being supportive and nice and understanding and that really motivated me to keep pushing until I get my problem solved :)

this is the wrong attitude with which to face life. there are some things in life over which you have no control, but your attitude is not one of them. i understand where @gilthemaster is coming from. feeling sorry for yourself is more detrimental and tragic than your story itself. conditioning your world upon the understanding of others is even more detrimental. what do you care if people understood you or not? there is no need to share your story with every person you meet and condition your relationship with them upon whether they feel sorry for you or not.

moral of the story, you have to count on yourself and still manage to find out that life can still be beautiful despite all the hardships it throws at you. we all have stories to tell, and we do not all have a rich nigerian prince for an uncle. the key is always to count on God and yourself, overcome obstacles, challenge destiny and make your own future.

you are lucky your mom and your sister are on your side, cherish every moment you spend with them, but you have to also realize that you need to step up and start counting on yourself, for your sake as well as theirs.
 

tyclegg

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this is the wrong attitude with which to face life. there are some things in life over which you have no control, but your attitude is not one of them. i understand where @gilthemaster is coming from. feeling sorry for yourself is more detrimental and tragic than your story itself. conditioning your world upon the understanding of others is even more detrimental. what do you care if people understood you or not? there is no need to share your story with every person you meet and condition your relationship with them upon whether they feel sorry for you or not.

moral of the story, you have to count on yourself and still manage to find out that life can still be beautiful despite all the hardships it throws at you. we all have stories to tell, and we do not all have a rich nigerian prince for an uncle. the key is always to count on God and yourself, overcome obstacles, challenge destiny and make your own future.

you are lucky your mom and your sister are on your side, cherish every moment you spend with them, but you have to also realize that you need to step up and start counting on yourself, for your sake as well as theirs.
Thank you for the advice, although I'd like to point out that I didn't share my story so people would feel sorry for me, and you're making me start doubting myself that somehow I made the narrative feel like I'm asking for sympathy or pity.

The whole intention behind my original post was to express my frustration and anger from how cornered I felt and how rude and mean everyone was from the embassy to the General Security, that was the purpose of my post, VENTING.
I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me or pity me, what I went through in those 3 years made me who I am today, for better or for worse, and also made me stronger :) I wouldn't change a thing about my past, I just want it to all end here so I could resume my future and start a new chapter in my life.

While I will admit that I didn't expect anyone to read through this, let alone get positive feedback and support, I do appreciate it and it is helpful, but I didn't intend on that :)
 
very sad story indeed, however it seems your problems can be solved with few bucks, to pay your fines, buy a ticket to Egypt, and a few extra for one or two months expenses till you find a job.

You may have written your story just to let it out of your system, without the intention of seeking financial help, but I, and hopefully other members here, would be happy to help you in any way possible so that you can reach your destination and start a new life.

but as you know helping you financially without verifying the authenticity of your story and without actually knowing anything about you is very risky.
 
and btw what is the secret behind your fluent English? from your story it is clear that you are from a modest family and most probably went to a Syrian public school, and in Lebanon you spent most of the time locked inside your room.
 

tyclegg

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very sad story indeed, however it seems your problems can be solved with few bucks, to pay your fines, buy a ticket to Egypt, and a few extra for one or two months expenses till you find a job.

You may have written your story just to let it out of your system, without the intention of seeking financial help, but I, and hopefully other members here, would be happy to help you in any way possible so that you can reach your destination and start a new life.

but as you know helping you financially without verifying the authenticity of your story and without actually knowing anything about you is very risky.
As it turns out to be, I wont need to pay a fine if I do this through the Egyptian embassy, so that's a load off my chest :D
As for the extra money to buy an airplane ticket and get started in Egypt, my girlfriend will help me with that as much as she could, I'll still have some extra money from selling some of my stuff as well.

And as for the members helping me, I really do appreciate the gesture :) but I don't think i'll be needing money anymore, as long as I don't have to pay a fine, the ticket and the start up in Egypt should be easy enough to be taken care of from my side.

And actually my family's financial state before all of this went down was way more than average I would say, we were living a good life back in Syria, we had 5 apartments, we were living in 1 and rented out the other 4..that was before we sold it ALL and came here just to lose all the money...
As for my English, I'd attribute it to the fact that I lived 7 years in Dubai in which I was studying in an American school (most the subjects were taught in English, except for religion) and it kept on improving while I was in Syria just by watching movies/anime and listening to music and then later on trying to sing said music xD also for the past 5 years I've been into online gaming which led me to meet a lot of people from all around the world and English being the universal language, it was inevitable to become fluent :D
 
As it turns out to be, I wont need to pay a fine if I do this through the Egyptian embassy, so that's a load off my chest :D
As for the extra money to buy an airplane ticket and get started in Egypt, my girlfriend will help me with that as much as she could, I'll still have some extra money from selling some of my stuff as well.

And as for the members helping me, I really do appreciate the gesture :) but I don't think i'll be needing money anymore, as long as I don't have to pay a fine, the ticket and the start up in Egypt should be easy enough to be taken care of from my side.

And actually my family's financial state before all of this went down was way more than average I would say, we were living a good life back in Syria, we had 5 apartments, we were living in 1 and rented out the other 4..that was before we sold it ALL and came here just to lose all the money...
As for my English, I'd attribute it to the fact that I lived 7 years in Dubai in which I was studying in an American school (most the subjects were taught in English, except for religion) and it kept on improving while I was in Syria just by watching movies/anime and listening to music and then later on trying to sing said music xD also for the past 5 years I've been into online gaming which led me to meet a lot of people from all around the world and English being the universal language, it was inevitable to become fluent :D
well that's impressive :)

sorry for the questions, but it helps us understand the struggles of a Syrian family who decided to have a normal life in Lebanon outside the refugee camps.

how did you spend all the money you had from the sale of five apartments in such a short period of time? one or two years I guess?
 

Dark Angel

Legendary Member
Thank you for the advice, although I'd like to point out that I didn't share my story so people would feel sorry for me, and you're making me start doubting myself that somehow I made the narrative feel like I'm asking for sympathy or pity.

The whole intention behind my original post was to express my frustration and anger from how cornered I felt and how rude and mean everyone was from the embassy to the General Security, that was the purpose of my post, VENTING.
I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me or pity me, what I went through in those 3 years made me who I am today, for better or for worse, and also made me stronger :) I wouldn't change a thing about my past, I just want it to all end here so I could resume my future and start a new chapter in my life.

While I will admit that I didn't expect anyone to read through this, let alone get positive feedback and support, I do appreciate it and it is helpful, but I didn't intend on that :)

it wont rain forever, but even when it rains you can still live a full and happy life. you can trust me on that. there are many venues where you can find sincere people who are willing to help, but you have to at least walk the path that leads you to them. you have to knock on the door first, and then it will be opened. this forum is one such venue. many members would gladly help, me included. there are also several institutions and good people all around, some might be able to help you find employment or might be willing to help you get to egypt and back so that you could get your papers in order. but nothing will get accomplished by confining yourself to your room.
 

tyclegg

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well that's impressive :)

sorry for the questions, but it helps us understand the struggles of a Syrian family who decided to have a normal life in Lebanon outside the refugee camps.

how did you spend all the money you had from the sale of five apartments in such a short period of time? one or two years I guess?
The plan was never to stay in Lebanon for this long actually, we were gonna move to Europe
And actually we lost the money within the first 7 months, it included a distant relative offering to invest the money in Canada and moving us there shortly after.. I really don't like remembering it or thinking about it, I put it all behind me.
 

Dark Angel

Legendary Member
As it turns out to be, I wont need to pay a fine if I do this through the Egyptian embassy, so that's a load off my chest :D
As for the extra money to buy an airplane ticket and get started in Egypt, my girlfriend will help me with that as much as she could, I'll still have some extra money from selling some of my stuff as well.

And as for the members helping me, I really do appreciate the gesture :) but I don't think i'll be needing money anymore, as long as I don't have to pay a fine, the ticket and the start up in Egypt should be easy enough to be taken care of from my side.

And actually my family's financial state before all of this went down was way more than average I would say, we were living a good life back in Syria, we had 5 apartments, we were living in 1 and rented out the other 4..that was before we sold it ALL and came here just to lose all the money...
As for my English, I'd attribute it to the fact that I lived 7 years in Dubai in which I was studying in an American school (most the subjects were taught in English, except for religion) and it kept on improving while I was in Syria just by watching movies/anime and listening to music and then later on trying to sing said music xD also for the past 5 years I've been into online gaming which led me to meet a lot of people from all around the world and English being the universal language, it was inevitable to become fluent :D

out of curiosity, what about your mother and sister in your plan? will they be going along to egypt?
 

Chanklish

Well-Known Member
The plan was never to stay in Lebanon for this long actually, we were gonna move to Europe
And actually we lost the money within the first 7 months, it included a distant relative offering to invest the money in Canada and moving us there shortly after.. I really don't like remembering it or thinking about it, I put it all behind me.
why do people keep taking advantage of you ? how gullible are you ?!
 

tyclegg

New Member
it wont rain forever, but even when it rains you can still live a full and happy life. you can trust me on that. there are many venues where you can find sincere people who are willing to help, but you have to at least walk the path that leads you to them. you have to knock on the door first, and then it will be opened. this forum is one such venue. many members would gladly help, me included. there are also several institutions and good people all around, some might be able to help you find employment or might be willing to help you get to egypt and back so that you could get your papers in order. but nothing will get accomplished by confining yourself to your room.
Thank you for the dose of positivity, it's very needed :) I was just traumatized and in shock from how dramatically everything changed in my life, I wasn't ready to open up yet
 
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